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Post by Andunare on Jun 28, 2007 19:59:51 GMT -5
I admit, the political repercussions might be interesting, however...If the queen is dead, then she will not need bodyguards (aka, us). If Vinquith kills the queen, then there is no story, and we will have to come up with another plot idea. Therefore, I believe, killing the queen would be a very bad idea...not to mention that it will upset Ashlyn. And most likely spark a war which, I agree with Fvarith, is also a very bad idea. From past experience, I find that roleplaying a war is not nearly as much fun as it sounds. Things tend to get messy and very complicated very quickly...
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Post by Beolakh on Jun 28, 2007 20:00:37 GMT -5
Well, see, that's the problem...Vinquith's too good at his job! Hear that, Vinny? IT'S ALL YOUR FAULT! ;D It would make it interesting. Not your average "save the damsel" story, cause the damsel...well...isn't saved. . We'd just have to find a way to keep it from being depressing... Repercussions! We all love repercussions, right? Because war may be troublesome, but it sure is interesting! EDIT *ninja'd by Andunare...* : We'd have to wait to kill her until the end. Otherwise 'twould be quite boring, guarding a dead person... And as for RPing a war. Keep in mind, the world is a very big place. Nobody would be forced to write war threads--but the fact that a war was going on would simply make it an option. Some really fun stories can come out of wars; though I agree with you, trying to RP the whole thing is most troublesome and rarely works. That brings me to a rather important concept for this forum, though. We're not quite the same as other RP boards. I guess we're more...a "storytelling" board. We don't have to "RP" the plot of the world, and everything that's going on in it, from beginning to end chronologically. The world is just an environment to create stories in. Hence, I can write a story about a battle between Beolakh and Kacey that happened three years ago while writing a thread with Tydus that's happening right now (for example). We don't necessarily have to RP everything important that goes on in the world...such things (like wars) are just stages to inspire plots. Granted, a war could also limit potential plots, so we'd have to be mildly creative with how we work it, so as not to render Talambar-Aetherae interaction impossible.
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Post by Vinquith on Jun 28, 2007 20:06:45 GMT -5
Aw, thanks, you flatter me. Especially considering I haven't killed anyone yet!
What if it's not royalty but high nobility, or a very rich, paranoid noble that no one likes and everyone wants dead anyway?
And important repercussion - Vinquith is going to be changed by this assignment, just tell me how. If he doesn't kill the person, mercy, peace, and Fvarith have gotten to his head. If he does, then seeing others affected by death would definitely leave a mark.
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Post by Tydus on Jun 28, 2007 21:46:07 GMT -5
Wah! I'm feeling left out because I don't have much time to get on while visiting relatives.... oh well, my fault.
Ok, my two cents. Well, we established that there is going to be one failed attempt, right? And then we guard the queen/royalty/personofsomewhatimportance, right? That's when the assassin is supposed to try again, right? I say that Vinquith doesn't kill her, though he struggles with it, but an assassin hired by someone else does. That assassin being very minor except for that role, we don't notice him much before, and he's killed right after the attempt. So he's not big to write in. That way, the person dies, but Vinquith can still be on the road that Fvarith has started him on. Does that work?
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Post by kayneliana on Jun 28, 2007 22:58:02 GMT -5
ok, so what's the final concensus... or have we not gotten there yet?
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Post by Andunare on Jun 29, 2007 15:33:26 GMT -5
Wait a minute...*is slightly confused*...I thought we weren't going to kill the queen...until the end, at least. Again, no queen, no story... After the first assassination attempt fails and Vinquith is called in, he could join our party of body guards in order to get close to his target. Then he could struggle over whether or not he wants to kill her, while he is affected by the rest of the characters, and they are affected by him. To make it even more interesting, the queen could be cold and tyrranous, so that the rest of our characters agonize over whether it is right to defend her...And then, eventually, we could decide on whether or not we want the queen to die, based on what happens as we play it out. I'm new to this sort of thing, so please be patient and clarify what you meant...
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Post by Beolakh on Jun 29, 2007 16:54:49 GMT -5
Wah! I'm feeling left out because I don't have much time to get on while visiting relatives.... oh well, my fault. Ok, my two cents. Well, we established that there is going to be one failed attempt, right? And then we guard the queen/royalty/personofsomewhatimportance, right? That's when the assassin is supposed to try again, right? I say that Vinquith doesn't kill her, though he struggles with it, but an assassin hired by someone else does. That assassin being very minor except for that role, we don't notice him much before, and he's killed right after the attempt. So he's not big to write in. That way, the person dies, but Vinquith can still be on the road that Fvarith has started him on. Does that work? Hmm...that could be a very fun plot twist at the end. Vinquith would provide the Hitchcockian suspense*, but at thread's end when he decides not to kill the noble (that okay, Vinquith?) it turns out one of the other crewman who's been in the background the whole time is also an assassin, and he kills the noble. I also agree with the notion that said noble should not be a very nice person. If we're going to kill her, we should make sure the reader doesn't like her that much. Otherwise the story is depressing, which me no likey. And yeah...perhaps making her a queen would be over the top. That would launch an all out war. If she was more minor, it could still generate some fun tension without all the problems. * Hitchcockian suspense theory: It's more suspenseful for the reader to know there's a bomb on the bus as unsuspecting passersby file on than it would be if the reader was just as surprised by the explosion as all the characters.
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Post by Vinquith on Jun 30, 2007 10:16:42 GMT -5
I like this plan! I have one request though: Vinquith kills the successful assassin. He can't completely be changed overnight! Other than that, I'm all set to write.
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Post by Tydus on Jun 30, 2007 10:34:12 GMT -5
Ok, that's fine by me, I don't see any reason to disagree with that, does anyone else?
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Post by Andunare on Jun 30, 2007 10:38:21 GMT -5
I am aware that my opinion technically doesn't count yet, but...I'm still confused. Please lay out for me exactly what you plan to have happen...and how it will involve Adyn and the Naeryan.
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Post by Vinquith on Jun 30, 2007 10:57:31 GMT -5
Okay. Let me see what I can do for you....
The plan is to get everyone together, as much as we possibly can (Fvarith not included), for a fun adventure (with assassins, the meaning of life, tyrannical personae, et.) . You, being outside of Talambar, are going to need some help or some speed to come and join us.
The basic plot is this: a high ranking Aerthean is coming to Talambar and someone has already tried to kill him/her, (I think we're leaning to her, aren't we?). Because the first assassination attempt was foiled, my Assassination Guild sends Vinquith to get the job done right. He, Vinquith, is caught snooping and joins the extra guard retinue that the Aerthean has hired for secrecy's sake. Because of my recent audition with Fvarith, Vinquith is now struggling with the meaning of life, so this is going to be really hard for him to be around people protecting life while preparing to kill someone else, et. In the end, drum roll, Vinquith decides not to kill the person, (who we decided is mean and deserves death anyway), but another unknown person does kill him. So we have a dead royal/noble/rich person on our hands, Vinquith as a really angry assassin who just got his target stolen from under him (that's why he needs to kill the actual assassin), and everyone else now unemployed.
Any more questions or clarification?
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Post by Tydus on Jun 30, 2007 12:08:42 GMT -5
Oh, one more thing. The body guards (us) are trying to get the person to safety, and that's where your ship, the Naeryan comes in I think.
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Post by Andunare on Jun 30, 2007 20:08:25 GMT -5
Okay, Thanks Vinquith! (and Tydus) I think I understand now. Though, *points to location*, Adyn is already in Talambar, which means less complication. Why won't Fvarith be a part of this thread?
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Post by Ashlyn on Jul 2, 2007 17:30:52 GMT -5
Sounds good to me!! And it's a good thing that you don't go after the queen. You won't like me when I'm angry!! Mwahahaha!!
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Post by Vinquith on Jul 3, 2007 10:19:43 GMT -5
Fvarith is busy interviewing people, she decided that she wants to keep up at her job...
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